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		<title>By: shannon</title>
		<link>http://american-family.org/2007/08/06/school-dilemma/comment-page-1/#comment-51914</link>
		<dc:creator>shannon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Aug 2007 06:07:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>3) Not exactly.  But I am a progressive liberal socialist pinko who believes strongly in the right of all children to an excellent education at the government&#039;s expense and I am planning to home school.  

Because I&#039;m also a teacher who has many, many qualms about not just the public schools specifically, but schools in general.  It&#039;s a case of knowing enough to be worried, while most of my political stripe don&#039;t know as much.  We aren&#039;t living the dream of good public education and I&#039;m not willing to sacrifice my children&#039;s realities to my political ideals.

Race and school is a vital factor too--ie: Black children underperforming and having low expectations from schools and being asssessed as problems early on, on the basis of race.

We can&#039;t afford the kind of progressive private school I&#039;d insist on and homeschooling means we never have to consider school districts in moves which is a factor speedily becoming uber relevant for us.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>3) Not exactly.  But I am a progressive liberal socialist pinko who believes strongly in the right of all children to an excellent education at the government&#8217;s expense and I am planning to home school.  </p>
<p>Because I&#8217;m also a teacher who has many, many qualms about not just the public schools specifically, but schools in general.  It&#8217;s a case of knowing enough to be worried, while most of my political stripe don&#8217;t know as much.  We aren&#8217;t living the dream of good public education and I&#8217;m not willing to sacrifice my children&#8217;s realities to my political ideals.</p>
<p>Race and school is a vital factor too&#8211;ie: Black children underperforming and having low expectations from schools and being asssessed as problems early on, on the basis of race.</p>
<p>We can&#8217;t afford the kind of progressive private school I&#8217;d insist on and homeschooling means we never have to consider school districts in moves which is a factor speedily becoming uber relevant for us.</p>
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		<title>By: liz</title>
		<link>http://american-family.org/2007/08/06/school-dilemma/comment-page-1/#comment-51518</link>
		<dc:creator>liz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Aug 2007 05:08:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Okay, so I&#039;m responding like 3 days after the fact but here goes.

I grew up down the road from where you live, in one of the snootiest suburbs.  The public school education education I got was fantastic.  My classmates?  Not so much.  All white, upper middle class and so damn snooty to anyone who was remotely different.

Your hood is a little more diverse than that place is, it seems.  Maybe even a lot more diverse.  For us, if we had access to a school as good as the one I went to, minus a good chunk of the snooty-ness, that&#039;s where my daughter would go.

Unfortunately, we&#039;ve learned that our neighborhood school is 70% Spanish-speaking and the focus of the school is on improving the students&#039; English skils.

Which is totally great as far as diversity goes and absolutely serves the needs of most of the neighborhood, but sucks for my kid.  She&#039;s a native English speaker without the language challenges that her peers in our neighborhood have.

Given that, she&#039;ll most likely be attending a private school 20 miles north of us that teaches Chinese and English.  

But, if we were in your situation, we&#039;d probably lean towards the local schools, at least through elementary.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Okay, so I&#8217;m responding like 3 days after the fact but here goes.</p>
<p>I grew up down the road from where you live, in one of the snootiest suburbs.  The public school education education I got was fantastic.  My classmates?  Not so much.  All white, upper middle class and so damn snooty to anyone who was remotely different.</p>
<p>Your hood is a little more diverse than that place is, it seems.  Maybe even a lot more diverse.  For us, if we had access to a school as good as the one I went to, minus a good chunk of the snooty-ness, that&#8217;s where my daughter would go.</p>
<p>Unfortunately, we&#8217;ve learned that our neighborhood school is 70% Spanish-speaking and the focus of the school is on improving the students&#8217; English skils.</p>
<p>Which is totally great as far as diversity goes and absolutely serves the needs of most of the neighborhood, but sucks for my kid.  She&#8217;s a native English speaker without the language challenges that her peers in our neighborhood have.</p>
<p>Given that, she&#8217;ll most likely be attending a private school 20 miles north of us that teaches Chinese and English.  </p>
<p>But, if we were in your situation, we&#8217;d probably lean towards the local schools, at least through elementary.</p>
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		<title>By: Kikilia</title>
		<link>http://american-family.org/2007/08/06/school-dilemma/comment-page-1/#comment-51396</link>
		<dc:creator>Kikilia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Aug 2007 20:16:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I would opt for the all girls school.  I&#039;ve just had my 6 1/2 year old ask if she could go to all girls school--not an option in my area.

I really think that the benefits around middle school age would be great.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I would opt for the all girls school.  I&#8217;ve just had my 6 1/2 year old ask if she could go to all girls school&#8211;not an option in my area.</p>
<p>I really think that the benefits around middle school age would be great.</p>
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		<title>By: Katie</title>
		<link>http://american-family.org/2007/08/06/school-dilemma/comment-page-1/#comment-51293</link>
		<dc:creator>Katie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Aug 2007 19:33:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi - I have put a lot of thought into the same question. I look at people I know and how they turned out, and wonder if the private vs. public education had anything to do with the outcome. I received all of my education in private schools that still have a reputation of being &quot;elite.&quot; I went off to my freshman year of college and managed to pull a 0.0 the second semester. My parents were very proud. HA! This was not a reflection on my highschool - but more due to the fact that I was just not ready to be so far away from my family yet. I had spent the year searching for the next fun party instead of in class. I should have waited a semester to go away to school. I came home and went to school in town and graduated with a high gpa. 

I went to an all girls high school and LOVED it. My best friends from high school are still my best friends today. I don&#039;t think this had a thing to do with private vs. public, but still feel so lucky to have them. I have wonderful memories of both grade school and of high school. My grade school experience was amazing - and that was all about the school. I would love to send my daughter - but it is pretty far out of my price range. She would be the fourth generation of our family to attend - so that kind of bums me out. 

I was never the poorest or the wealthiest kid in the class. I remember who was though. In grade school it was not a big deal. In highschool it was a little bit bigger of a concern. But it was more about what kind of a kid you were. 

One of my concerns with our daughter is also about choosing a school with a diverse student body. Most private schools are not as diverse as the public schools in our area. I really believe that a school is what you make of it. I think a person can get a great education at either type of school if they work at it. I think class sizes in private schools may often be smaller. I also think that depending on the private school - the facilities may be quite a bit nicer. We have a private school up the street though that has pretty scant facilities. It is supposed to be a great school - and the tuition reflects that reputation. I have also heard that kids coming out of it have no basic math skills. Yikes! 

It seems to me that you can find any type of situation out there - good school, high tuition, bad school, high tuition, fabulous public school, rotten public school. There are several girls from my highschool class that hated our school. There was also a class below mine that was awful - personalities clashed, constant arguing. I would have hated highschool if I had been in that class. There are so many factors involved. I guess you have to make the best choice for your family and keep your fingers crossed. 

The one regret I have about being sent to private schools now is when people ask me where I went to school - which is a popular question in the city I live in. I know that the peson asking is trying to attach a label to me. I also know the label I&#039;m going to get when I answer. I loved both my primary and secondary schools and am proud to have attended. But I hate it when I am asked that question. People automatically turn up their noses and say &quot;oh&quot; - as if they have just decided I am a huge snob. It drives me nuts. I usually try and avoid the question and NEVER ask it myself.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi &#8211; I have put a lot of thought into the same question. I look at people I know and how they turned out, and wonder if the private vs. public education had anything to do with the outcome. I received all of my education in private schools that still have a reputation of being &#8220;elite.&#8221; I went off to my freshman year of college and managed to pull a 0.0 the second semester. My parents were very proud. HA! This was not a reflection on my highschool &#8211; but more due to the fact that I was just not ready to be so far away from my family yet. I had spent the year searching for the next fun party instead of in class. I should have waited a semester to go away to school. I came home and went to school in town and graduated with a high gpa. </p>
<p>I went to an all girls high school and LOVED it. My best friends from high school are still my best friends today. I don&#8217;t think this had a thing to do with private vs. public, but still feel so lucky to have them. I have wonderful memories of both grade school and of high school. My grade school experience was amazing &#8211; and that was all about the school. I would love to send my daughter &#8211; but it is pretty far out of my price range. She would be the fourth generation of our family to attend &#8211; so that kind of bums me out. </p>
<p>I was never the poorest or the wealthiest kid in the class. I remember who was though. In grade school it was not a big deal. In highschool it was a little bit bigger of a concern. But it was more about what kind of a kid you were. </p>
<p>One of my concerns with our daughter is also about choosing a school with a diverse student body. Most private schools are not as diverse as the public schools in our area. I really believe that a school is what you make of it. I think a person can get a great education at either type of school if they work at it. I think class sizes in private schools may often be smaller. I also think that depending on the private school &#8211; the facilities may be quite a bit nicer. We have a private school up the street though that has pretty scant facilities. It is supposed to be a great school &#8211; and the tuition reflects that reputation. I have also heard that kids coming out of it have no basic math skills. Yikes! </p>
<p>It seems to me that you can find any type of situation out there &#8211; good school, high tuition, bad school, high tuition, fabulous public school, rotten public school. There are several girls from my highschool class that hated our school. There was also a class below mine that was awful &#8211; personalities clashed, constant arguing. I would have hated highschool if I had been in that class. There are so many factors involved. I guess you have to make the best choice for your family and keep your fingers crossed. </p>
<p>The one regret I have about being sent to private schools now is when people ask me where I went to school &#8211; which is a popular question in the city I live in. I know that the peson asking is trying to attach a label to me. I also know the label I&#8217;m going to get when I answer. I loved both my primary and secondary schools and am proud to have attended. But I hate it when I am asked that question. People automatically turn up their noses and say &#8220;oh&#8221; &#8211; as if they have just decided I am a huge snob. It drives me nuts. I usually try and avoid the question and NEVER ask it myself.</p>
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		<title>By: Katherine</title>
		<link>http://american-family.org/2007/08/06/school-dilemma/comment-page-1/#comment-51280</link>
		<dc:creator>Katherine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Aug 2007 17:14:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I went to private schools all the way - and I&#039;m not sure it was the best choice for me.  My elementary was very small, just one class per grade and not much differentiation offered.  A few of us worked ahead in math in 4th grade and completed 4th and 5th grade math - only to have to redo 5th grade math again the next year.  Partly because of this, my parents moved me to a larger private school in 7th grade.  They considered the all girls school - only they found that it was very strong in liberal arts, but not in math and science.  The middle/high school I ended up at was also stronger in liberal arts, but I was able to take (and pass) AP courses/tests in calculus and Physics.  I was the only girl in my AP Physics class, but at least the class was there (and not watered down).
We&#039;ve looked at private schools for our 2 boys (3rd and 6th grade), but haven&#039;t felt that the ones available locally are particularly better than the public schools.  Most of the private ones are religious in a way we&#039;re not comfortable with - and while the behavior is better, the academics seem similar.  Both kids have loved their gifted pullout program in elementary.  It&#039;s too early to tell about the middle school (this is only its 2nd year), but most of the parents we&#039;ve talked to have had really good experiences.
    Public has been fine so far, and we&#039;ll stick with it as long as it continues that way.  Plus, we have an excellent magnet high school program available (that my DH teaches at).  It&#039;s generally considered to have a better education than any of the private schools available.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I went to private schools all the way &#8211; and I&#8217;m not sure it was the best choice for me.  My elementary was very small, just one class per grade and not much differentiation offered.  A few of us worked ahead in math in 4th grade and completed 4th and 5th grade math &#8211; only to have to redo 5th grade math again the next year.  Partly because of this, my parents moved me to a larger private school in 7th grade.  They considered the all girls school &#8211; only they found that it was very strong in liberal arts, but not in math and science.  The middle/high school I ended up at was also stronger in liberal arts, but I was able to take (and pass) AP courses/tests in calculus and Physics.  I was the only girl in my AP Physics class, but at least the class was there (and not watered down).<br />
We&#8217;ve looked at private schools for our 2 boys (3rd and 6th grade), but haven&#8217;t felt that the ones available locally are particularly better than the public schools.  Most of the private ones are religious in a way we&#8217;re not comfortable with &#8211; and while the behavior is better, the academics seem similar.  Both kids have loved their gifted pullout program in elementary.  It&#8217;s too early to tell about the middle school (this is only its 2nd year), but most of the parents we&#8217;ve talked to have had really good experiences.<br />
    Public has been fine so far, and we&#8217;ll stick with it as long as it continues that way.  Plus, we have an excellent magnet high school program available (that my DH teaches at).  It&#8217;s generally considered to have a better education than any of the private schools available.</p>
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