Conversations I have had with Mr. A in the not-to-distant past:
Attempt #1: Mr. A: Once the kids get older, would you consider moving to Washington/Chicago/back to San Francisco, if I got an amazing job?
Mr. A: Once the kids get older, would you consider moving to Washington/Chicago/back to San Francisco, if I got an amazing job?Me: No. Can you pass the ketchup?
Attempt #2: Mr. A: After I make partner, if I get offered a job doing XYZ working for a company like ABCD, do you think I should take the job?
Mr. A: After I make partner, if I get offered a job doing XYZ working for a company like ABCD, do you think I should take the job?Me: Would it mean we have to move? If so, I would say NO.
Attempt #3: Mr. A: If I got a job at the White House, would you move to Washington DC?
Mr. A: If I got a job at the White House, would you move to Washington DC?Me: No. And if you are going to get that job, we may as well file for divorce right now, because White House lawyers work so much I would never see you anyway.
Wash, Rinse, Repeat.
In the past 4 years, we have had the above conversations about 5,000 times. Every time the topic of needing to move for Mr. A’s career came up, I immediately said no and closed the subject.
That makes me sound rather bitchy, no?
There is a little history behind it. When we lived in San Francisco when M was a wee babe, Mr. A was a crappy father and an even worse partner to me. He had a particularly abusive boss at a really evil Firm who asked him to do ridiculous amounts work in very short periods of time. Mr. A also used to have a very difficult time setting appropriate boundaries with his job. As in, he left the hospital 2 hours after M was born to go to the office. (Seriously, he will be hearing about that poor judgement at M’s 50th birthday party because I have still not forgotten it.) He was also averaging about 80-100 hours a week in the office while M was 1, 2 and 3 months old and I was still trying to finish the last of my grad school classes.
When we moved back to the Midwest, the decision was mine. Mr. A was no help with the baby. NONE. Also, besides paying the bills, he was not supporting me at all. I believe the deciding conversation went something like this: ”I am moving back to the Midwest with or without you. I need help, you aren’t providing it, so I need to live near my parents. If your job is so important, you can stay. If you want to be a part of this family, you know where to find us.”
Needless to say, Mr. A came with us. In the years since then, he has grown into one of the very best fathers and husbands I know. Things have changed dramatically, which means the importance of external family support for us to be successful/happy parents has decreased significantly (though still very desirable).
So when it started to become clear that Mr. A is probably going leave his current job, he started talking about his options. In those conversations, I realized that if we stay here, his best career option is to continue in his current job. This job is a bad fit and will inevitably nibble holes in his psyche if he stays there for the next 35 years.
I like his psyche without holes, thank you very much, so I put all options on the table including moving. Once Mr. A provided information about his dream career trajectory, it seemed reasonable enough even though it required a move. It also seemed like this next job will be a huge investment in his future career (which also happens to pay my bills), so it may be worth a few sacrifices.
So now, the ball is in Mr. A’s court. He is researching all his options, but the responsibility of this decision is weighing heavily on him. I can see it in his eyes.
Well, that and in the way he keeps walking around muttering ”Man, this is a really difficult decision!”
Tonight, I asked him why it is such a difficult decisions when he has been campaigning for this very thing for so long. He said, “Well, before it was all just fantasy. I always knew you would say no. Now that you are onboard, the decision is real. Now I have to consider more than just convincing you to say OK.”
So the struggle is now between Mr. A and himself. Since he is a lawyer, both sides of him are making pretty solid arguments. I have no idea which way he will go.
We should have a decision and a plan in place by the end of the week.

So good to know someone else is doing the exact same thing as we are, although the locations are different (Miami, San Diego, Dallas, DC).
I know it’s not on your list, AND I don’t know what kind of law Mr. A practices, BUT State Farm HQ in Bloomington IL is a really great corp law department. Seems to be an 8:30 to 4:30 job, nice people, great town.
Wow, that sounds hard. You know, Seattle is nice. Real estate is stupidly expensive, but it’s not as congested as SF, and it is beautiful and temperate. I’m am slightly biased, however…
Sorry – this is an OT question, but I’m not sure where else/how else to ask – once you did a post of % match on facial characteristics of the girls to you and Mr A from photos. Unfortunately I can’t find the post. Where is that site that does the matching? Two of the men I work with are trying to determine who looks most like Adam Sandler (seriously.) and they are looking for some sort of objective determination.
I grew up in Chicago btw – LOVED it, would move back in a minute (if jobs magically presented themselves and our house magically sold itself). Now we’re in Mpls, also good, but it’s no Chicago!
Yes well when M is 50 that leaving 2 hours after she was born will be “Mr. A left when you were mid way through the birth canal.” Hee Hee.
Beverly