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	<title>Comments on: A story about little Mr. A and little me</title>
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		<title>By: Lilian</title>
		<link>http://american-family.org/2008/08/22/a-story-about-little-mr-a-and-little-me/comment-page-1/#comment-92238</link>
		<dc:creator>Lilian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Sep 2008 02:19:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow... I get busy and can&#039;t come visit for a couple of weeks and now there&#039;s so much to catch up! What a fascinating discussion!

And my heart broke for little Mr. A too, particularly because the main cause of his troubles (apart from the &quot;craziness&quot; of his parents) is the fact that he is the child of immigrants. Just that tiny slice of his story reminded me of Maxine Hong Kingston&#039;s &lt;i&gt;The Woman Warrior&lt;/i&gt; which I taught years ago. 

It was great to hear chicagomama&#039;s voice again after so many months, and her interchange with Jody. It makes me really glad that I&#039;m not sending my son into a school where he might have to face those problems. Well, now I have to go read the most recent posts!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow&#8230; I get busy and can&#8217;t come visit for a couple of weeks and now there&#8217;s so much to catch up! What a fascinating discussion!</p>
<p>And my heart broke for little Mr. A too, particularly because the main cause of his troubles (apart from the &#8220;craziness&#8221; of his parents) is the fact that he is the child of immigrants. Just that tiny slice of his story reminded me of Maxine Hong Kingston&#8217;s <i>The Woman Warrior</i> which I taught years ago. </p>
<p>It was great to hear chicagomama&#8217;s voice again after so many months, and her interchange with Jody. It makes me really glad that I&#8217;m not sending my son into a school where he might have to face those problems. Well, now I have to go read the most recent posts!</p>
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		<title>By: Kathy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kathy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Aug 2008 04:15:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mr. A is very much like my brother. I was fortunate to have him to pave the path for me in our white suburbia growing up Chinese.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mr. A is very much like my brother. I was fortunate to have him to pave the path for me in our white suburbia growing up Chinese.</p>
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		<title>By: ShariU</title>
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		<dc:creator>ShariU</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Aug 2008 21:09:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have 4 kids, the older 2 are in college, 1 in high school and the baby (adopted from China) just started kindergarten.  I have always done my best to make sure my kids didn&#039;t stand out; i.e. clean, hair brushed, good clothes, homework done on time, forms signed, field trips paid for, etc etc.  My oldest son was teased mercilessly by his classmates in the 4th and 5th grade.  He was always kind of a &quot;book-wormy&quot; kid and had glasses, didn&#039;t play sports and just didn&#039;t fit in with his peers.  He came home many, many days crying about how badly he had been teased.  They called him gay, queer, nerd, all the standards.  I spoke with his 4th grade teacher about it because the girl who teased him the most was right behind him in the lunch line.  The teacher switched the line order around a little bit so he didn&#039;t have to stand next to her, but other than that all I could really do was wrap my arms around him when he came home from school and let him cry it out.  It improved by middle school and by high school he was just fine.  (In fact, he graduated near the top of his class, got into the college of his choice and is on full academic scholarship......so HA! to all the a@@holes who tormented him and are now working at Best Buy and interestingly enough, most of the tormentors have turned out to not be overachievers). I think, as parents, there is a lot we can do to help our kids fit in or NOT stand out, but the truth is, some kids are just &quot;ripe&quot; for being picked on and there&#039;s not a heck of a lot you can do about it once it happens.  The teachers are aware of it and I felt they did they did what they could do to try to make it easier on him, but in the end, he just had to endure it.  Putting all that in words just brings on a whole flood of emotions for me.  Thankfully, my son has turned into a strong and courageous young man who seems to understand that the bullies really were just very small people and that it had nothing to do with him.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have 4 kids, the older 2 are in college, 1 in high school and the baby (adopted from China) just started kindergarten.  I have always done my best to make sure my kids didn&#8217;t stand out; i.e. clean, hair brushed, good clothes, homework done on time, forms signed, field trips paid for, etc etc.  My oldest son was teased mercilessly by his classmates in the 4th and 5th grade.  He was always kind of a &#8220;book-wormy&#8221; kid and had glasses, didn&#8217;t play sports and just didn&#8217;t fit in with his peers.  He came home many, many days crying about how badly he had been teased.  They called him gay, queer, nerd, all the standards.  I spoke with his 4th grade teacher about it because the girl who teased him the most was right behind him in the lunch line.  The teacher switched the line order around a little bit so he didn&#8217;t have to stand next to her, but other than that all I could really do was wrap my arms around him when he came home from school and let him cry it out.  It improved by middle school and by high school he was just fine.  (In fact, he graduated near the top of his class, got into the college of his choice and is on full academic scholarship&#8230;&#8230;so HA! to all the a@@holes who tormented him and are now working at Best Buy and interestingly enough, most of the tormentors have turned out to not be overachievers). I think, as parents, there is a lot we can do to help our kids fit in or NOT stand out, but the truth is, some kids are just &#8220;ripe&#8221; for being picked on and there&#8217;s not a heck of a lot you can do about it once it happens.  The teachers are aware of it and I felt they did they did what they could do to try to make it easier on him, but in the end, he just had to endure it.  Putting all that in words just brings on a whole flood of emotions for me.  Thankfully, my son has turned into a strong and courageous young man who seems to understand that the bullies really were just very small people and that it had nothing to do with him.</p>
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		<title>By: Jody</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jody</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Aug 2008 17:51:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Chicagomama,

Since I&#039;m one of the parents praising our &quot;progressive&quot; schools, I&#039;ll step up and respond.

The diversity in our schools isn&#039;t about conforming to a hippy-crunchy-granola &quot;quirkiness&quot; standard -- although certainly there are plenty of crunchy-granola parents in our first elementary school.  It&#039;s about the fact that there are half a dozen different distinct &quot;communities&quot; that make up our school population, and none of the children from those groups has the power or the desire -- in the early grades -- to divide themselves by food or clothing.

As I wrote in my comment to my last post: by third grade or middle school at the latest, all bets are off.  But when first starting out?  None of the kids in kindergarten in our school were paying any attention to food or clothing.  To call that disinterest a standard to which people must &quot;conform&quot; seems to strain the definition of the term.

There are TONS of children in this district whose mothers spend countless hours on their own and their children&#039;s appearance, because those mothers are good Southern ladies and wouldn&#039;t send their kids to school without hair ribbons and fancy clothes.  There are plenty of good Republicans, too, although I&#039;ll admit it&#039;s maybe only 40% in our immediate vicinity.  But regardless of political affiliation, Christians are in the vast majority, and Bible-belt fundamentalism is a powerful presence, and if the atheists (of whom there are also many) are pitying us Christians to their children at home, I&#039;m not hearing about it.

At playdates, at birthday parties, on the playground, there is a level of diversity that is not about conforming to one standard of quirkiness.  Not at this age.  The neatly dressed brand-name-wearing children of white Evangelical Republicans play with the thrift-store generic-Tshirt dressed children of Latino immigrants and they all eat their different foods while chatting at the lunch table and those are just not the issues on which they police their group boundaries.

Few things scare me more than the possibility that I might be sending my child off to a school where she would feel lonely or incapable of understanding the social rules.  I was shocked to discover two years ago, when my kids started kindergarten, that the issues that mattered most to me -- mostly having to do with clothing, I was hyper-vigilant about buying the &quot;popular&quot; clothes and making sure they were stain-free -- didn&#039;t matter to my kids or their peers.

I think it would be great if it turns out that M attends a school like that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Chicagomama,</p>
<p>Since I&#8217;m one of the parents praising our &#8220;progressive&#8221; schools, I&#8217;ll step up and respond.</p>
<p>The diversity in our schools isn&#8217;t about conforming to a hippy-crunchy-granola &#8220;quirkiness&#8221; standard &#8212; although certainly there are plenty of crunchy-granola parents in our first elementary school.  It&#8217;s about the fact that there are half a dozen different distinct &#8220;communities&#8221; that make up our school population, and none of the children from those groups has the power or the desire &#8212; in the early grades &#8212; to divide themselves by food or clothing.</p>
<p>As I wrote in my comment to my last post: by third grade or middle school at the latest, all bets are off.  But when first starting out?  None of the kids in kindergarten in our school were paying any attention to food or clothing.  To call that disinterest a standard to which people must &#8220;conform&#8221; seems to strain the definition of the term.</p>
<p>There are TONS of children in this district whose mothers spend countless hours on their own and their children&#8217;s appearance, because those mothers are good Southern ladies and wouldn&#8217;t send their kids to school without hair ribbons and fancy clothes.  There are plenty of good Republicans, too, although I&#8217;ll admit it&#8217;s maybe only 40% in our immediate vicinity.  But regardless of political affiliation, Christians are in the vast majority, and Bible-belt fundamentalism is a powerful presence, and if the atheists (of whom there are also many) are pitying us Christians to their children at home, I&#8217;m not hearing about it.</p>
<p>At playdates, at birthday parties, on the playground, there is a level of diversity that is not about conforming to one standard of quirkiness.  Not at this age.  The neatly dressed brand-name-wearing children of white Evangelical Republicans play with the thrift-store generic-Tshirt dressed children of Latino immigrants and they all eat their different foods while chatting at the lunch table and those are just not the issues on which they police their group boundaries.</p>
<p>Few things scare me more than the possibility that I might be sending my child off to a school where she would feel lonely or incapable of understanding the social rules.  I was shocked to discover two years ago, when my kids started kindergarten, that the issues that mattered most to me &#8212; mostly having to do with clothing, I was hyper-vigilant about buying the &#8220;popular&#8221; clothes and making sure they were stain-free &#8212; didn&#8217;t matter to my kids or their peers.</p>
<p>I think it would be great if it turns out that M attends a school like that.</p>
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		<title>By: cebii</title>
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		<dc:creator>cebii</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Aug 2008 15:31:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>yikes.  

Today was the first day of school.  My kids are attending preschool at a low income school which isn&#039;t in our neighborhood because my partner teaches there.  We decided we&#039;d rather have them in a place where we understood the variables.  

We get high quality handmedown&#039;s - polo, oskosh, tommy... and we could keep them dressed really well, but they would not fit in at that school.  

My 4 yo daughter would not wear the cute dress we&#039;d picked out last night, and her foster sister put her in a long sleeve pajama shirt and Ariel shorts.  I kept the shorts, but put her in an oshkosh polo shirt.  There are lines we won&#039;t cross, at least in the beginning.  Her twin brother was totally and  completely in spiderman - from toes to lunchbox.  Not what I would have chosen, but it was clean, in good shape and will dress himself in spiderman.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>yikes.  </p>
<p>Today was the first day of school.  My kids are attending preschool at a low income school which isn&#8217;t in our neighborhood because my partner teaches there.  We decided we&#8217;d rather have them in a place where we understood the variables.  </p>
<p>We get high quality handmedown&#8217;s &#8211; polo, oskosh, tommy&#8230; and we could keep them dressed really well, but they would not fit in at that school.  </p>
<p>My 4 yo daughter would not wear the cute dress we&#8217;d picked out last night, and her foster sister put her in a long sleeve pajama shirt and Ariel shorts.  I kept the shorts, but put her in an oshkosh polo shirt.  There are lines we won&#8217;t cross, at least in the beginning.  Her twin brother was totally and  completely in spiderman &#8211; from toes to lunchbox.  Not what I would have chosen, but it was clean, in good shape and will dress himself in spiderman.</p>
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